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Taking Jesus seriously

John 20, 27-29: Then he said to Thomas, Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe. Thomas said to him, My Lord and my God! Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.

While Jesus is very sensitive to wrong titles and salutations and responds directly and immediately with a contradict of correction, he allows here Thomas to call him the Lord and God. The conscious omission of a correction is an active Allow this statement about the person of Jesus. Jesus allows this address and confirmes it by that.

It is interesting in this context that he takes just the infidel, the Thomas, to find to a sequence in the course of events that just passes on and demonstrates for the very infidels, what is true nature of Jesus.

But the Watchtower Society destroys that active placement of the value of Jesus before men, by saying that Thomas would have wanted to make Jesus only a kind of compliment. That would indeed have been not meant in this way. And anyway, there are so many gods ... so they adressed in ancient times each other now and again as a God. Especially when they were drunk and met a good buddy.

If Jesus would be only an angelic spirit creature, as the Watchtower of Babylon claims, he, pursuant to his nature and strictly along his in the Bible documented behavior, should have had to disagree immediately and clearly!

He did not!

Jesus' life is aimed at the total sum on a single small nucleus. Believe in me and you are saved. This means that he longs to be taken seriously by you. He is not a reference of mild doing good, he's no idol, not a freak, not a revolutionary, not a cowboy and not a figurehead. And certainly he is not angelic spirit creature.

Jesus is the Almighty God who has visited us and has gone the way, which no one else would go - also not for a maximal nice host. On behalf of the Father, Jesus put all one's eggs in one basket, and handed over all human being the by God himself decided predefinition of the rescue by faith.

Who wants to have something to do with Jesus, who should take him as seriously as non other in his life. Who wants to get along with Jesus, the has to throw his confidence on him and accept him in whole clarity and in artless interpretation. Otherwise he runs the risk of abusing Jesus only. As an ideology, as a moral weapon, as a Catholic and Watchtower-own instrument of power, as a historical event and at the end as angelic spirit-creature, to what the Jehovah's Witnesses degrade him.

Who wants to take Jesus' promise of salvation by faith for benefit, has like Thomas - yes, as the Doubting Thomas - to accept Jesus in his authority and let him rule. But who does deliver Jesus only for interpretative purposes into absurdity, commits a breach, which represents the sin itself. He broke with him and only wants just to see him as what suits himself and his own opinion now.

Nothing more than that last negative variation takes place in the watch tower philosophy. The Watch Tower Society is a collection of people who have never taken a personal commitment to Jesus. They have never met him personally, but only philosophize about him. They use him as a vehicle to support their secular, earthly-oriented view of things and forget about it just to try it out, what the real matter is with Jesus.

Instead, like any good scientist once test the thing itself, they drivel far-fetched assumptions about him and avoid every emotion that could bring them nearer to Jesus. They invent excuses in order to relativise the actions of Jesus, to pass off him as not important and not so meaningful. They make mental detours to not even impact him and to not accept the truth that he is himself.

Because they have their own truth. The Watch Tower-truth. Well marketed and advertised again and again with colorful booklets.

The above-quoted passage is an exceptional situation! Jesus is here aware of the information through the mouth of Doubting Thomas become part of the tradition and emphasizes it with an almost casual response. As if he said "Well" to this statement of Thomas, as if he wanted to install a hint for the most boneheaded and faithless. - He passes on seamlessly to the teaching that faith without knowledge is counting.

This belief without the involvement of the human brain, without taking into consideration our conditioning, without calculation of our different intelligence is the essence of justice, which God sent us in Jesus. He has decided that no one can come to him when he cold-shoulders Jesus. Cold-shoulders the immediate and direct faith in Jesus.

This decision of God is recorded in the First Letter of Paul to the Corinthians and made the world definitively known. (1st Corinthians 1, 17-31) Anyone who passes this, condemns God and even belies him. He sins against God and slaps seeing eye his work out of his hand.

The insult is perfect. And in this sense, the Jehovah's Witnesses in good faith in the teaching of the Watchtower Society beat God himself in the middle of his face.

Why people put their trust in their own understanding? Why don't they accept the invitation, the Father has created and decided for us in Jesus?


the trinity as you believe is a lie ,

and can show u proof in the bible that jesus was a spirit being before he came to earth , jesus said himself i came into the world , hence he came from wright hand off jehovah almighty.

jesus also said i do nothing off my own will but to my farthers will, notice what the word my , yes another being jehovah god .

jesus in his final hours before arrest jesus,spent several hours praying to jehovah for strengh , jesus also said to jehovah , if it posible please take this cup from me , hence the cup off all mens sins to be poured out as a ransom for adams and eves sin s.

elder foxall [2012-03-27]
Exactly that is what the Trinity doctrine says, that the God of the Bible consists of several beings. Persons, individuals. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. How else could we otherwise understand the command: baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?

Jehovah's Witnesses are incredibly stressed to show their Jehovah "God" as a solo actor. That Jehovah "God" is someone like Allah? May be. But in the Bible, God presents to us as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. And John is clear when he says: And the Word was God.

Anyone who denies the Trinity, is making Jesus be a sub-God and is violating the first commandment: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Ruediger [2012-04-04]
Matthew 3:16 +17 - As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him.

And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

Was Jesus throwing his voice? He is not God, but rather the son of God.

"Only an angelic spirit creature" First born of all creation - king of king and lord of lords. The redeemer, sent to pay the wages of sin for all mankind. Hardly "just" anything...

The trinity is a Babylonian teaching. It is false worship that existed long before the birth of the Christ. Look into it.

Trinity is Babylonian [2013-09-25]
What a funny God who forbids in the first commandment to have a second God, but then installes a second god in John 1:1? This only may be the comedian God of the Jehovah's witnesses, who does that.

The God of the Bible forbids to have any other god in the first commandment. Jesus therefore must be God, who became man.

To your arguments: If God becomes man, then he does not things by halves. As a man he was really human. - And the Word became flesh!

The Trinity is enforced by the first commandment. Jehovah's Witnesses have to break the first commandment 24 hours a day, because they have by John 1:1 (New World Translation) a second God in their religion.

The logic is simple and clear. A God who forbids to have a second God on the one hand and on the other hand installes a second God, can not be the God of the Bible.

Ruediger [2013-09-25]
Never, not once does Jesus claim to be God by his own word, but he does say this. Why do you refuse believe him?

John 1: "49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. 50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. 51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man."

The trinity is Babylonian [2013-09-26]
Jesus said: I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. Who but God can be the truth? Who but God can be the life? Jesus says at the sight of Jerusalem: How often would I have gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! Who did this? Only YHWH. And Jesus is YHWH, become man to save us.

Ruediger [2013-09-26]
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